I have it on good authority that the aka national body is about to do a deal for transponders to work with the smart card system. They will be giving all the gear the club needs for free to every club in australia but we will then have 12months to purchase a transponder and they will be compulsary from then on. I have been told that the cost of the transponders is approx $300 incl GST to the aka national and that is what they will give them to the state bodies for, but it is up to them how much they will charge us for them!!!!!!!!!
Pete
Pete
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Bring them on. Anything that makes the day easier on the voulenteers who run it will ultimately make it better for us racers.
I agree. It's a great idea. It's not like you'll be stuck with your transponder anyway, you'll be able to sell it to anyone coming into the sport... So it's not a dead loss expenditure for the karter.
I agree its a great idea no more lap scorers which are hard to find out here in country nsw but i do worry how much more they are going to be marked up seems like a lot fingers in the pie.
Any reason why it's taken karting so long to bring in transponders?, RC cars have had them for years, and i'm sure the karting AMB systems can handle the same kind of transponder that RC cars use and they are only $150aus tops.....
Just something for the person in the know to question....
Hopefully an amb system will be used because I think there will be a fair few clubs trying to get rid of a fair few transponders cheap :)
They also get their power from the BEC circuit in the receiver, which we clearly don't have in karting :) Still have my AMBrc transponder in a box in the cupboard :)
Baden MacDonald said:Any reason why it's taken karting so long to bring in transponders?, RC cars have had them for years, and i'm sure the karting AMB systems can handle the same kind of transponder that RC cars use and they are only $150aus tops..... Just something for the person in the know to question....
True but, 2 watch batterys always worked for me. Hell then you could use your old one.
Just an idea, cheers
James McLean said:They also get their power from the BEC circuit in the receiver, which we clearly don't have in karting :) Still have my AMBrc transponder in a box in the cupboard :)Baden MacDonald said:Any reason why it's taken karting so long to bring in transponders?, RC cars have had them for years, and i'm sure the karting AMB systems can handle the same kind of transponder that RC cars use and they are only $150aus tops.....Just something for the person in the know to question....
Lets see if they ave decided to go with AMB , most clubs have them on the system and know how they work, and have invested many thousands of dollars with AMB , I hope that the AKA have decided to impliment a system that we all know , not some unproven system which will costs us many extra $ 000 `s in purchasing etc ,
It is said this smart card system is now up to a cost of several hundred grand like 7 and most clubs can`t use it as you have to do everything twice, alot of money spent for just 6000 members.
I'm missing something on transponders replacing lap scorers. We ran timing yesterday in Toowoomba. At the moment, when you do that, you need extra people at the entry to get all the details into the computer, and you run at least one extra person in the tower to run the timing system.
One of the people in the tower is the judge of fact on finishing position. The AMB doesn't always get the order correct when two karts cross the line close together. I have had two experienced timing officers tell me that can be the case, and in one finish at the Qld titles, the chief timing officer and all the lap scorers visually saw a finish contrary to the AMB - quite clearly.
You still gotta have them.
Terry Sheedy
Terry Sheedy said:One of the people in the tower is the judge of fact on finishing position .... and in one finish at the Qld titles, the chief timing officer and all the lap scorers visually saw a finish contrary to the AMB - quite clearly.
Terry Sheedy
Terry, was this maybe due to the placement of the transponders on the karts? If one competitor had his/her transponder on the nose cone for example and one had it on the rear number plate such a result could occur (an extreme example, I know). I know they're supposed to be inside the side pod, 300mm from kingpin etc etc, but does this ever get checked?
The information I have is that they ARE going to be using the AMB system, which will almost certainly be the Tranx160 model. The reason for this model and not cheaper ones/lower spec models such as the AMBrc, is because the Tranx160 is rated up to 160kph over the sensor. The lower models do not pulse their unique code rapidly enough to get a accurate reading at higher speeds crossing the timing strip. This is why higher spec digital models such as the Tranx260 or TranxPro will work with the Tranx160 decoder, they would just be an unnecessary higher cost.
Baden MacDonald said:True but, 2 watch batterys always worked for me. Hell then you could use your old one. Just an idea, cheers
James McLean said:They also get their power from the BEC circuit in the receiver, which we clearly don't have in karting :) Still have my AMBrc transponder in a box in the cupboard :)Baden MacDonald said:Any reason why it's taken karting so long to bring in transponders?, RC cars have had them for years, and i'm sure the karting AMB systems can handle the same kind of transponder that RC cars use and they are only $150aus tops.....Just something for the person in the know to question....
One of the problems happening with the transponders is they have to sit vertical. Some of the newer style pods make it hard to get the transponder in the correct position. Maybe its time to look at changing the position of the transponder to the back or side of the seat.
Kyle Sandona said:Terry Sheedy said:One of the people in the tower is the judge of fact on finishing position .... and in one finish at the Qld titles, the chief timing officer and all the lap scorers visually saw a finish contrary to the AMB - quite clearly.
Terry Sheedy
Terry, was this maybe due to the placement of the transponders on the karts? If one competitor had his/her transponder on the nose cone for example and one had it on the rear number plate such a result could occur (an extreme example, I know). I know they're supposed to be inside the side pod, 300mm from kingpin etc etc, but does this ever get checked?