Interesting reading on kartsport news
http://www.kartsportnews.com/content/2009/news_090831-6.html
Should we follow their lead for Nationals, States and other "blue ribbon" events?
http://www.kartsportnews.com/content/2009/news_090831-6.html
Should we follow their lead for Nationals, States and other "blue ribbon" events?
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They just BANNED them in Australia!!!!
What about the costs??? you would have to have at least 400 units, plus everything to go with it, plus all the rule changes and procedures for use will have to be designed/copied.
But properly used they could easily clarify many incidents that get missed in the hectic few seconds of an incident, plus would be a good tool for memories, as hearings are usually well after the incident enough time for memories to become clouded.
Plus it would make the drivers a bit more careful as they now have a passenger of sorts able to see what you did.
Maybe smaller scale like CIK could work, fewer karts, = cheaper costs, easier to manage?? opportunity to "suck it and see"??? if costs aren't too high could work. Opportunity to bring CIK back into line to what it should be?
Good idea but like many good ideas the $$ will be the final say.
I had a good ol chuckle when I read that article.......
Of course onboard camera's should be allowed... Not just at big meets either - provided the scruitineers ok it.
Yeah Gus, I had to laugh as well when I first read the article. But now that I have had a chance to ponder:-For many years we shared transponders at larger meetings, Why not cameras? A small pencil camera lens could easily be mounted to a kart, with wireless signal back to a central point. Could make some interesting Stewards Hearings!!
Wally Edwards said:Could make some interesting Stewards Hearings!!
It might just eliminate the need for stewards hearings altogether!
the GoPro Hero camera is AMAZINGLY good, at only $350 bucks. They are sensational. Most people would WANT to buy one if they knew how good they are. Great for analysing and discussing driver decision making and line selection.
Does anyone know the exact reason why they were banned?
Nope, and this is my biggest gripe with the AKA. A rule was put in place, to great uproar, with NO explanation whatsoever. If there's a good reason we shouldn't be running cameras, let's hear it. If the only logic was "they might fall off", let's make a rule about how they must be attached, and embrace them!
Aren't the transponders we soon have to buy just as expensive as a Go Pro camera? I saw some sample videos from these cameras a few months ago and they are fantastically good for the price. I was quite disappointed to find that onboard cameras were banned. I can understand people's gripes about them being mandatory but banning them just seems altogether backward to me. I think they would be very handy in incident review because I'm pretty sure you can play back incidents on the cameras themselves so theres no need for a special video room setup.
Col Fink said:the GoPro Hero camera is AMAZINGLY good, at only $350 bucks. They are sensational. Most people would WANT to buy one if they knew how good they are. Great for analysing and discussing driver decision making and line selection. Does anyone know the exact reason why they were banned? Nope, and this is my biggest gripe with the AKA. A rule was put in place, to great uproar, with NO explanation whatsoever. If there's a good reason we shouldn't be running cameras, let's hear it. If the only logic was "they might fall off", let's make a rule about how they must be attached, and embrace them!
I think it would be a good idea.
They should have them like what they do with trandsponders, clubs buy them, we pick them up before our race and attach them to some kind of mount.
6000 karters x $350 = $2.1 million 100 clubs buying 60 sets = $2.1mil who will pay? AKA had the club purchase option for the transponders but chose the drivers to buy their own, would expect if they seriously went this way same thing driver to buy their own.
Think of the new guy, has to join a club $, get a licence $$ now buy a transponder$$$ = $$$$ add a camera to this all before he can put a kart on the track and the new guy may just think twice?? could be up for nearly $1000!!!
But yes they would be good certainly sorted the v8 guys out with their cameras.
Should be allowed with appropriate rules though.
Brad Weaire said:I think it would be a good idea. They should have them like what they do with trandsponders, clubs buy them, we pick them up before our race and attach them to some kind of mount.
The GoPro cams are awesome. Good for the $$ & sturdy as hell.. I've dropped mine a few times & it still works swoit.
I made a few enquiries to AKA NSW when they were banned, but didn't get much.
Shame too, because a few guys I know bought the same cam as I have mere days before they were banned...
No way they should be compulsory (same for the transponders - what value does it add, really?) but if you check it with the scruitineers each time (meet) you use it, then I don't really see a problem. As somesone has said before, if one falls off - can't do anymore damage than say a 10kg chunk of lead.... surely!
That AIM smart cam with the graphic overlays looks wicked.
If anyone goes to there club meetings can you tell me did you know about this agenda item to ban onboard cameras. I went through the agenda items and can't seem to find them anywhere.
I thought agendas were given to clubs to have there say through their delegate. It must have been that big of a safety issue it had to be discussed and voted on straight away without any input from karters or clubs.
If it wasn't an agenda item (I may have missed it) than have our delegates taken matters into their own hands again like the clutch debacle.
I don't believe cameras should be compulsary, but I have no idea why the AKA has decided to ban them at race meetings. It seems really odd to me, and annoying since I went out and bought one, only to be told a week later I can't use it at a race meeting, hopefully the ruling will be changed.
I agree Col, there are rules as to the way we bolt on kilo's and kilo's of lead, surely some of us nuffy's can organise a tiny camera
Col Fink said:the GoPro Hero camera is AMAZINGLY good, at only $350 bucks. They are sensational. Most people would WANT to buy one if they knew how good they are. Great for analysing and discussing driver decision making and line selection.Does anyone know the exact reason why they were banned?Nope, and this is my biggest gripe with the AKA. A rule was put in place, to great uproar, with NO explanation whatsoever. If there's a good reason we shouldn't be running cameras, let's hear it. If the only logic was "they might fall off", let's make a rule about how they must be attached, and embrace them!