I was very disappointed at the weekend to see a young driver walk up to another driver stand in his face and say "you bent my axle" in a very threatening way
If someone gets in your face just sneeze without covering your mouth....
LOL. Works even better if you have bird flu...........Tom Bawden said:
If someone gets in your face just sneeze without covering your mouth....
what a load of crap......' the dads are trying to live there life again through the kids
my son had 2 dnf's on weekend, one, another kid hit puddle water onto track and my son spun on tyres with moisture on next corner and when I got there he was unhappy with himself and I said bad luck better next time.
Next race final going well gets a tap from behind spun again kart turned off. Now if you think that my kid suppose to have a smile on his face when I reach him, you would have to be joking. These kids have feelings and can be very competative. Karting is more than playing ping pong and would be up there in what would be called contact sport
I took the walk back to the pits and the other karter came up to appologise and still my son did not want to accept apology but a little coaxing and suggesting and all was ok shook hands but hey..... give them some room to deal with it in there own way. These kids are young and know what will happen if they get too agressive ! If your kid did bend the axle did he go and say sorry?
ps Yes, John there might be some parents out there with white line fever but I bet they are the same at footy or at home
John Daly said:
thats the problem with the kids racing
they SHOULD NOT be racing for titles or plates or trophys
the dads are trying to live there lives again through there kids
and then it gets to serious...then that shite happens
Well actually my son my son was on the inside of the track , the kid went wide and could not come back onto the driving line because there was a freight train behind my son, no excuses for this type of behaviour. He is lucky I did not raise a complaint.
Intimidation, is not allowed in any sport or even the work place and I should not have to deal with an upset son.
The kid went onto win the event did I jump onto a stewart put my money down and complain NO, BUT NEXT TIME I WILL..
Was I upset when my son was in fourth and racing for third T-boned and finished last, kept going around even though he was now last... a little, was my son crying when he came in no, did he go up to the guy and stand in his face and yell you hit me off....
No my son knows better.
What did the other kid say in reply?
If he was brought up correctly (and if it was his fault), he should have said something like "yeah, sorry for that. I'll get my dad and we'll come and help you fix it".
Then, the dad of the first kid should have said to his..."next time, just say your piece without the agro"
Kids will be kids and may often make poor choices when dealing with others. If their parents then step in and show them more appropriate solutions, all is well. If not, apply POINTS penalties for any bad behaviour of the kid or their parents. If that does not work, 12 months on the sidelines should give all concerned time to consider more appropriate responses.
Steve
My son was shocked and quite upset when we got to him. He didn't reply.... I spent my time calming him down for the restart of the race. I agree if we had thought it was his fault we would have been there to help
We as parents should be trying to teach our children to have respect for their fellow competitors.
This includes teaching them to pass cleanly, not using the kart in front as a break and encouraging them to discuss race incidents instead of abusing each other.
This would require us as parents to lead the way!
Shannon
So true I must say sorry to the parent of this child,I have asked for this post to be removed, the post was not an attack on the child just questioning young drivers behaviour when it comes to racing. You are right I should have brought my concerns to the parent on the day. The confrontation warranted ?? No I don't believe it is at any time warranted (the child confronted wasn't even the one who caused the damage or jumped the start).
So true I should have lodged my money and went to the officials so they could handle it on the day. I will remember that for the future.
No drama intended and I have asked for this load of crap to be removed..
Regards
Tralee
Shannon, yes I agree 100%. That aside, the topic of behavioural standards for ALL DRIVERS, PARENTS, PIT CREW and OFFICIALS, is one that should be discussed far more often than it currently is.
The great majority of Karters I have met behave very well, despite allowing the red mist to cloud their view from time to time.
Everyone from time to time finds themselves in a situation where they end up behaving in an inappropriate manner. This is life. But the true test of someone's character is how long it takes for them to realise they are doing wrong, then how long it takes to apologise to anyone they affected.
Where behaviour involves minors, more leniency should be shown to them, but NOT to their parents (unless it's obvious that the parents are doing the right thing).
Tralee, you should NOT have to put money down. If it happened in the In Grid, the official on duty should have reported the matter.
And that leads to the second part about bad behaviour.....
We have rules in place to deal with all kinds of bad behaviour. Whether or not the penalties are appropriate is besides the point, but unless the rules are enforced 100% of the time, people start to think that they can get away with anything they like. The culmination of this was of course the pathetic old official who assaulted a competitor when they tried to have the rules enforced. Official got away with it and the competitor was fined.
We might all be racing mobility scooters by the time the AKA get their act together enough to engender a culture of adherence to the rules, so what we need is to see everyone speaking up when they see bad behaviour. The more it gets noticed, the quicker we will all see who the repeat offenders are and the sooner they can be black listed from every track in Australia.
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If someone gets in your face just sneeze without covering your mouth....
LOL. Works even better if you have bird flu...........Tom Bawden said:
If someone gets in your face just sneeze without covering your mouth....
what a load of crap......' the dads are trying to live there life again through the kids
my son had 2 dnf's on weekend, one, another kid hit puddle water onto track and my son spun on tyres with moisture on next corner and when I got there he was unhappy with himself and I said bad luck better next time.
Next race final going well gets a tap from behind spun again kart turned off. Now if you think that my kid suppose to have a smile on his face when I reach him, you would have to be joking. These kids have feelings and can be very competative. Karting is more than playing ping pong and would be up there in what would be called contact sport
I took the walk back to the pits and the other karter came up to appologise and still my son did not want to accept apology but a little coaxing and suggesting and all was ok shook hands but hey..... give them some room to deal with it in there own way. These kids are young and know what will happen if they get too agressive ! If your kid did bend the axle did he go and say sorry?
ps Yes, John there might be some parents out there with white line fever but I bet they are the same at footy or at home
John Daly said:
thats the problem with the kids racing
they SHOULD NOT be racing for titles or plates or trophys
the dads are trying to live there lives again through there kids
and then it gets to serious...then that shite happens
Well actually my son my son was on the inside of the track , the kid went wide and could not come back onto the driving line because there was a freight train behind my son, no excuses for this type of behaviour. He is lucky I did not raise a complaint.
Intimidation, is not allowed in any sport or even the work place and I should not have to deal with an upset son.
The kid went onto win the event did I jump onto a stewart put my money down and complain NO, BUT NEXT TIME I WILL..
Was I upset when my son was in fourth and racing for third T-boned and finished last, kept going around even though he was now last... a little, was my son crying when he came in no, did he go up to the guy and stand in his face and yell you hit me off....
No my son knows better.
What did the other kid say in reply?
If he was brought up correctly (and if it was his fault), he should have said something like "yeah, sorry for that. I'll get my dad and we'll come and help you fix it".
Then, the dad of the first kid should have said to his..."next time, just say your piece without the agro"
Kids will be kids and may often make poor choices when dealing with others. If their parents then step in and show them more appropriate solutions, all is well. If not, apply POINTS penalties for any bad behaviour of the kid or their parents. If that does not work, 12 months on the sidelines should give all concerned time to consider more appropriate responses.
Steve
My son was shocked and quite upset when we got to him. He didn't reply.... I spent my time calming him down for the restart of the race. I agree if we had thought it was his fault we would have been there to help
We as parents should be trying to teach our children to have respect for their fellow competitors.
This includes teaching them to pass cleanly, not using the kart in front as a break and encouraging them to discuss race incidents instead of abusing each other.
This would require us as parents to lead the way!
Shannon
So true I must say sorry to the parent of this child,I have asked for this post to be removed, the post was not an attack on the child just questioning young drivers behaviour when it comes to racing. You are right I should have brought my concerns to the parent on the day. The confrontation warranted ?? No I don't believe it is at any time warranted (the child confronted wasn't even the one who caused the damage or jumped the start).
So true I should have lodged my money and went to the officials so they could handle it on the day. I will remember that for the future.
No drama intended and I have asked for this load of crap to be removed..
Regards
Tralee
Shannon, yes I agree 100%. That aside, the topic of behavioural standards for ALL DRIVERS, PARENTS, PIT CREW and OFFICIALS, is one that should be discussed far more often than it currently is.
The great majority of Karters I have met behave very well, despite allowing the red mist to cloud their view from time to time.
Everyone from time to time finds themselves in a situation where they end up behaving in an inappropriate manner. This is life. But the true test of someone's character is how long it takes for them to realise they are doing wrong, then how long it takes to apologise to anyone they affected.
Where behaviour involves minors, more leniency should be shown to them, but NOT to their parents (unless it's obvious that the parents are doing the right thing).
Tralee, you should NOT have to put money down. If it happened in the In Grid, the official on duty should have reported the matter.
And that leads to the second part about bad behaviour.....
We have rules in place to deal with all kinds of bad behaviour. Whether or not the penalties are appropriate is besides the point, but unless the rules are enforced 100% of the time, people start to think that they can get away with anything they like. The culmination of this was of course the pathetic old official who assaulted a competitor when they tried to have the rules enforced. Official got away with it and the competitor was fined.
We might all be racing mobility scooters by the time the AKA get their act together enough to engender a culture of adherence to the rules, so what we need is to see everyone speaking up when they see bad behaviour. The more it gets noticed, the quicker we will all see who the repeat offenders are and the sooner they can be black listed from every track in Australia.