I've never tried..... but in my view it would be very unreliable. I.e. how do you measure exactly the amount of pinch?
The tuning needles do a fantastic job with accurate fuel metering; turning one of them a predetermined amount works well.
Cheers
Gary
it works, ive done it J's and clubman. But its not like giving 10 kart lengths, just enough to get side by side.
Dunno how it works, I was told to do once and it worked. The hardest part is finding the fuel line when your racing around :)
I don't know if boost is the right word or not. I race clubby light and snr J light. For clubby I use the pinching fuel line method as it was first recommended to me by a couple of people of considerable knowledge and I have found it to be good. I don't however do this on the J (why?? I have always used the jets and have no issues). With the clubby I have found that u have less time to react should ur tune be off before fouling a plug etc. Using the fuel line I have found that u have better control of fuel during the roll ups so u don't allow a build up that results in a sluggish start. For instance u may never have raced at Oran Park but there is a tight downhill part coming off the bridge where on roll ups ur on pretty much zero thottle and just keeping the motor going - so with the fuel line u give it even less through this part so u don't get a build up - so basically its very adjustable but all based on ur feel. Also u don't have to fiddle with jet position - simply squeeze harder or softer. So should u need a very quick change (say less fuel so u don't foul) ur hand is there instantly. On starts u simply release and ur set to go with the jet settings u set before the race. Yes finding the line to begin with may be a little difficult but its just like finding the jets when u first start - u get used to it. Also driving with one arm for most of the roll ups can sometimes be a little annoying but personally for clubman i've found the fuel line method to suit me better and have never had any issues doing it this way. Having said all this someone who has the jets just right should get exactly the same start. Like anything in motorsport, u need to filter ur info so i'm not saying this is the answer but simply it works for me!!
alright well.......yes i use this strategy in most races ....wat happens is.....when ur rolling round going slow.. the motor is not burning the fuel..... so u get the fuel line on the end where it connects to the carbie and pull it up so its closed....... and jus keeep it closed until u feel the motor stop and run out of fuel.....then obviosly u let some in....... but u want to let go of ur fuel line probly 1 corner or so before the start to let the fuel go through.... it definatley works....
hey mate....
yea look its one of those things that depends.. i raced clubby for quite a while and i did do it but it must be said not all the time...if you are of the first couple rows then there is no real advantage if you set the carby up right...
however back in the pack gives more potential, if the roll ups are slow then giving a slight pinch of the line as you approach the last corner will help prevent the engine fouling and bogging down..And obviously we are talking a slight pinch, just enough to restrict the fuel but not starve the engine
But hey its up to if you wanna experiment with it cause it will take time to get it right (but dont hold it for ages), but focus on your caby's tune before trying the fuel line pinch
hope it helps and have a good one
total bogus... forget trying all these "nifty tricks" and just concentrate on the job at hand. timing your starts right would give a ten fold advantage on the line compared to the line pinch. tuning the carby is ok, because you dont have to think about it on the line, you can concentrate on timing the lights and the gaps. just dont forget to change it back to racing setup after the first corner... you dont want to melt the poor thing
but yeah... concentration is 99.99% of the start, not having it running lean with pinching the fuel line.
if however, you do decide to try it, dont shut it off completely, or for very long. not only can it ruin your start by coughing from lack of fuel, but that cough could cause serious damage if prolonged
Andy, I tend to disagree.
I have run at many meetings, and seen some of the best guy do this, sometimes roll arounds can be quite a long time, however pinching the fuel line off the will help it from fouling up also...
Also, there will never be any long time serious damage, are you dreamin mate?.
I have never fouled a plug in clubman racing, but if you want to do some SERIOUS damage, please turn the jets out to three turns, then speed up and choke the thing for about 10 seconds, then you will cause damage to the person behind you not being able to breathe, and can drive away from them while they are still trying to see where you disappeared into the distance. Good, carry on.
Luke LOL. I like the smoke screen bit haha.
Yer fuel line pinch is useful for slow or gumby field roll arounds or full fields of 30 plus karts where drivers can't form up quick.
Doing 6 lap roll arounds can foul plugs easily.
I've never seen engines nip up due to squeeze its only when you tie it in a knot or cut it in half you may have a problem.lol
:-D
Luke Fong said:Andy, I tend to disagree.I have run at many meetings, and seen some of the best guy do this, sometimes roll arounds can be quite a long time, however pinching the fuel line off the will help it from fouling up also...Also, there will never be any long time serious damage, are you dreamin mate?.I have never fouled a plug in clubman racing, but if you want to do some SERIOUS damage, please turn the jets out to three turns, then speed up and choke the thing for about 10 seconds, then you will cause damage to the person behind you not being able to breathe, and can drive away from them while they are still trying to see where you disappeared into the distance. Good, carry on.
Smoke screening is the way to go truey, i believe I have done it once or twice to you before.
Andy, maybe give it a go? It can't hurt? :)
Luke Fong said:Smoke screening is the way to go truey, i believe I have done it once or twice to you before.Andy, maybe give it a go? It can't hurt? :)
Haha and I just though you were running a diesel mix .
If im racig next year i'll bring a gas mask if i draw a grid behind you. hehehe
Luke i love your James Bond smog screen trick, i must try this one day lol see if it works, any engine damage or does it just fill the bottom end with fuel ????
but Jayden i think it is more appropriate to use this method in the Clubmans because they are revving harder and the tiniest change would make a big difference, in J's the carby is all you REALLY need. I've never used the fuel line pinch trick and i remember one day at Oran Park i started out of 9th and going over the bridge i was dragging Grant Dyga for 1st, another good start i remember is me and a mate going from last and 2nd last (15th and 16th dead off the back row) charging through to 1st and 2nd in under 3 laps :-P haha that was a good day ... But yes i think the line pinch is only really needed in clubman because of the different revs .... A good trick i use is to aim for a temperature on the Mychrone, different engines might run a little hotter but i know on my starts i always aim for a certain temperature in the roll up laps.
Luke Fong said:Andy, I tend to disagree. I have run at many meetings, and seen some of the best guy do this, sometimes roll arounds can be quite a long time, however pinching the fuel line off the will help it from fouling up also...
Also, there will never be any long time serious damage, are you dreamin mate?.
I have never fouled a plug in clubman racing, but if you want to do some SERIOUS damage, please turn the jets out to three turns, then speed up and choke the thing for about 10 seconds, then you will cause damage to the person behind you not being able to breathe, and can drive away from them while they are still trying to see where you disappeared into the distance. Good, carry on.
okydoke... im outspoken... i shall investigate... :D
Shaun Tidyman said:Luke i love your James Bond smog screen trick, i must try this one day lol see if it works, any engine damage or does it just fill the bottom end with fuel ????but Jayden i think it is more appropriate to use this method in the Clubmans because they are revving harder and the tiniest change would make a big difference, in J's the carby is all you REALLY need. I've never used the fuel line pinch trick and i remember one day at Oran Park i started out of 9th and going over the bridge i was dragging Grant Dyga for 1st, another good start i remember is me and a mate going from last and 2nd last (15th and 16th dead off the back row) charging through to 1st and 2nd in under 3 laps :-P haha that was a good day ... But yes i think the line pinch is only really needed in clubman because of the different revs .... A good trick i use is to aim for a temperature on the Mychrone, different engines might run a little hotter but i know on my starts i always aim for a certain temperature in the roll up laps.Luke Fong said:Andy, I tend to disagree.I have run at many meetings, and seen some of the best guy do this, sometimes roll arounds can be quite a long time, however pinching the fuel line off the will help it from fouling up also... Also, there will never be any long time serious damage, are you dreamin mate?.I have never fouled a plug in clubman racing, but if you want to do some SERIOUS damage, please turn the jets out to three turns, then speed up and choke the thing for about 10 seconds, then you will cause damage to the person behind you not being able to breathe, and can drive away from them while they are still trying to see where you disappeared into the distance. Good, carry on.
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I've never tried..... but in my view it would be very unreliable. I.e. how do you measure exactly the amount of pinch?
The tuning needles do a fantastic job with accurate fuel metering; turning one of them a predetermined amount works well.
Cheers
Gary
it works, ive done it J's and clubman. But its not like giving 10 kart lengths, just enough to get side by side.
Dunno how it works, I was told to do once and it worked. The hardest part is finding the fuel line when your racing around :)
I don't know if boost is the right word or not. I race clubby light and snr J light. For clubby I use the pinching fuel line method as it was first recommended to me by a couple of people of considerable knowledge and I have found it to be good. I don't however do this on the J (why?? I have always used the jets and have no issues). With the clubby I have found that u have less time to react should ur tune be off before fouling a plug etc. Using the fuel line I have found that u have better control of fuel during the roll ups so u don't allow a build up that results in a sluggish start. For instance u may never have raced at Oran Park but there is a tight downhill part coming off the bridge where on roll ups ur on pretty much zero thottle and just keeping the motor going - so with the fuel line u give it even less through this part so u don't get a build up - so basically its very adjustable but all based on ur feel. Also u don't have to fiddle with jet position - simply squeeze harder or softer. So should u need a very quick change (say less fuel so u don't foul) ur hand is there instantly. On starts u simply release and ur set to go with the jet settings u set before the race. Yes finding the line to begin with may be a little difficult but its just like finding the jets when u first start - u get used to it. Also driving with one arm for most of the roll ups can sometimes be a little annoying but personally for clubman i've found the fuel line method to suit me better and have never had any issues doing it this way. Having said all this someone who has the jets just right should get exactly the same start. Like anything in motorsport, u need to filter ur info so i'm not saying this is the answer but simply it works for me!!
alright well.......yes i use this strategy in most races ....wat happens is.....when ur rolling round going slow.. the motor is not burning the fuel..... so u get the fuel line on the end where it connects to the carbie and pull it up so its closed....... and jus keeep it closed until u feel the motor stop and run out of fuel.....then obviosly u let some in....... but u want to let go of ur fuel line probly 1 corner or so before the start to let the fuel go through.... it definatley works....
hey mate....
yea look its one of those things that depends.. i raced clubby for quite a while and i did do it but it must be said not all the time...if you are of the first couple rows then there is no real advantage if you set the carby up right...
however back in the pack gives more potential, if the roll ups are slow then giving a slight pinch of the line as you approach the last corner will help prevent the engine fouling and bogging down..And obviously we are talking a slight pinch, just enough to restrict the fuel but not starve the engine
But hey its up to if you wanna experiment with it cause it will take time to get it right (but dont hold it for ages), but focus on your caby's tune before trying the fuel line pinch
hope it helps and have a good one
total bogus... forget trying all these "nifty tricks" and just concentrate on the job at hand. timing your starts right would give a ten fold advantage on the line compared to the line pinch. tuning the carby is ok, because you dont have to think about it on the line, you can concentrate on timing the lights and the gaps. just dont forget to change it back to racing setup after the first corner... you dont want to melt the poor thing
but yeah... concentration is 99.99% of the start, not having it running lean with pinching the fuel line.
if however, you do decide to try it, dont shut it off completely, or for very long. not only can it ruin your start by coughing from lack of fuel, but that cough could cause serious damage if prolonged
Andy, I tend to disagree.
I have run at many meetings, and seen some of the best guy do this, sometimes roll arounds can be quite a long time, however pinching the fuel line off the will help it from fouling up also...
Also, there will never be any long time serious damage, are you dreamin mate?.
I have never fouled a plug in clubman racing, but if you want to do some SERIOUS damage, please turn the jets out to three turns, then speed up and choke the thing for about 10 seconds, then you will cause damage to the person behind you not being able to breathe, and can drive away from them while they are still trying to see where you disappeared into the distance. Good, carry on.
Luke LOL. I like the smoke screen bit haha.
Yer fuel line pinch is useful for slow or gumby field roll arounds or full fields of 30 plus karts where drivers can't form up quick.
Doing 6 lap roll arounds can foul plugs easily.
I've never seen engines nip up due to squeeze its only when you tie it in a knot or cut it in half you may have a problem.lol
:-D
Luke Fong said:Andy, I tend to disagree.I have run at many meetings, and seen some of the best guy do this, sometimes roll arounds can be quite a long time, however pinching the fuel line off the will help it from fouling up also...Also, there will never be any long time serious damage, are you dreamin mate?.I have never fouled a plug in clubman racing, but if you want to do some SERIOUS damage, please turn the jets out to three turns, then speed up and choke the thing for about 10 seconds, then you will cause damage to the person behind you not being able to breathe, and can drive away from them while they are still trying to see where you disappeared into the distance. Good, carry on.
Smoke screening is the way to go truey, i believe I have done it once or twice to you before.
Andy, maybe give it a go? It can't hurt? :)
Luke Fong said:Smoke screening is the way to go truey, i believe I have done it once or twice to you before.Andy, maybe give it a go? It can't hurt? :)
Haha and I just though you were running a diesel mix .
If im racig next year i'll bring a gas mask if i draw a grid behind you. hehehe
Luke i love your James Bond smog screen trick, i must try this one day lol see if it works, any engine damage or does it just fill the bottom end with fuel ????
but Jayden i think it is more appropriate to use this method in the Clubmans because they are revving harder and the tiniest change would make a big difference, in J's the carby is all you REALLY need. I've never used the fuel line pinch trick and i remember one day at Oran Park i started out of 9th and going over the bridge i was dragging Grant Dyga for 1st, another good start i remember is me and a mate going from last and 2nd last (15th and 16th dead off the back row) charging through to 1st and 2nd in under 3 laps :-P haha that was a good day ... But yes i think the line pinch is only really needed in clubman because of the different revs .... A good trick i use is to aim for a temperature on the Mychrone, different engines might run a little hotter but i know on my starts i always aim for a certain temperature in the roll up laps.
Luke Fong said:Andy, I tend to disagree. I have run at many meetings, and seen some of the best guy do this, sometimes roll arounds can be quite a long time, however pinching the fuel line off the will help it from fouling up also...
Also, there will never be any long time serious damage, are you dreamin mate?.
I have never fouled a plug in clubman racing, but if you want to do some SERIOUS damage, please turn the jets out to three turns, then speed up and choke the thing for about 10 seconds, then you will cause damage to the person behind you not being able to breathe, and can drive away from them while they are still trying to see where you disappeared into the distance. Good, carry on.
okydoke... im outspoken... i shall investigate... :D
Shaun Tidyman said:Luke i love your James Bond smog screen trick, i must try this one day lol see if it works, any engine damage or does it just fill the bottom end with fuel ????but Jayden i think it is more appropriate to use this method in the Clubmans because they are revving harder and the tiniest change would make a big difference, in J's the carby is all you REALLY need. I've never used the fuel line pinch trick and i remember one day at Oran Park i started out of 9th and going over the bridge i was dragging Grant Dyga for 1st, another good start i remember is me and a mate going from last and 2nd last (15th and 16th dead off the back row) charging through to 1st and 2nd in under 3 laps :-P haha that was a good day ... But yes i think the line pinch is only really needed in clubman because of the different revs .... A good trick i use is to aim for a temperature on the Mychrone, different engines might run a little hotter but i know on my starts i always aim for a certain temperature in the roll up laps.Luke Fong said:Andy, I tend to disagree.I have run at many meetings, and seen some of the best guy do this, sometimes roll arounds can be quite a long time, however pinching the fuel line off the will help it from fouling up also... Also, there will never be any long time serious damage, are you dreamin mate?.I have never fouled a plug in clubman racing, but if you want to do some SERIOUS damage, please turn the jets out to three turns, then speed up and choke the thing for about 10 seconds, then you will cause damage to the person behind you not being able to breathe, and can drive away from them while they are still trying to see where you disappeared into the distance. Good, carry on.